Pillars of Eternity Wiki:Admin noticeboard/Archive

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=Archived Issues=

Page for endings created. Could it be added to the main page?
So I've created a page for the endings: http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Pillars_of_Eternity_Endings

Based it on the similar page on the Fallout wiki: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_endings

Could it be added to the main page, say, in the Quests section?
 * A link has been added to the main page. --Alianin 20:00, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Internet Explorer editing
With Internet Explorer (11), the Edit tab is missing - there is only Edit Source. Do we have an old version of the Visual Editor, before IE11 was supported? Tungsticgp (talk) 20:50, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * IE isn't fully supported in VisualEditor currently. They're planning on supporting version 9 and up, but it's not fully there yet. Here's the info: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Target_browser_matrix --Alianin T &bull; C 22:01, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


 * The page above is obsolete - it has not been updated since May, 2015. The current roadmap claims that IE10 and above is now supported (as of October 1, 2015): https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor/Roadmap Tungsticgp (talk) 03:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * We are limited to which version of VisualEditor we use because of the MediaWiki version we are running. We are currently running 1.23 and support for IE11 needs 1.24, IE10 needs 1.25. We are working on getting updated to 1.26 at the beginning of the year. --Alianin T &bull; C 14:52, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there more to the upgrade than just applying it? --Tungsticgp (talk) 04:42, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is significant work going into being ready to upgrade all our wikis to MediaWiki 1.26. --Alianin T &bull; C 14:31, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Annoying Video Ads
Today some ads have started appearing for movies with audio, sometimes 2 per page, that loop continuously. These are very intrusive - distracting to the point where pages become almost unusable. They re-start frequently even if you pause and/or mute them. Can we please dial them back to something reasonable. --Tungsticgp (talk) 04:11, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Those kinds of ads definitely should not be happening. To assist in tracking down and getting rid of those kinds of ads, it'd be helpful if we can get this information:
 * Time
 * Actual page it appeared on
 * Screenshot
 * Links to where the ad went (right-click and copy link location, if you can)
 * Thank you! --Alianin T &bull; C 14:52, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * One example from just now is an ad for godaddy.com, at the top right of the Character creation page, just under the page heading line. After a while it was replaced with a Star Wars ad that was OK (did not auto-play).
 * Here's a screen shot of that: ==> PoE Video Ad.jpg
 * The ones I saw yesterday that auto-played continuously started appearing an hour or two before my initial post above. They appeared at the top and/or bottom right, on several of the pages I was editing, such as Forum. (See my contributions for Dec 19 around 22:00 local time - EST.) They were also for godaddy.com and Star Wars, if I remember correctly. Sorry - no screen shots.
 * --Tungsticgp (talk) 02:43, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Duplicate pages
both pages are about the same item (given internal name is correct, by the way!): http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Girdle_of_Maegfolc_Might http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Belt_of_Maegfolc_Might I don't want to start deleting one, because there are certainly other pages linking to it, so I'd certainly mess it up somehow. –Preceding unsigned comment was added by 79.194.228.208 (talk • contribs) at 01:54, 13 May 2016 (UTC). Please sign your posts with
 * Can you let me know which is the correct one and I'll redirect the other? Thanks! --Alianin T &bull;  C 11:35, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The in-game name of the item is "Girdle of Maegfolc Might". At least currently, it could be that it was changed from earlier versions, after all the command line name suggests quite a name change. --79.193.83.215 20:20, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It can always be tweaked. The redirect has been created. Thanks for pointing it out! --Alianin T &bull;  C 21:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Update picture
I have photoshopped the three expansion places (Crägholdt, Yenwood Field and the White March) into the travel map. Maybe an admin would be so nice to update http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/File:Travel-map.jpg with this http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160514/j6p6ehgl.jpg On a side note, the new file is a good deal smaller because the old one wasn't properly compressed, 2,4 MB are just too much for a jpg of that format. --79.193.81.183 21:53, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Done! Thanks for the update! --Alianin T &bull;  C 23:17, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Adding Extension:Array
Hi there, I am planning to do some work on SMW and add new semantic properties to items and enchantments. But to do this I need to use property value arrays and parse them.

Would it be possible to add and install Extension:Arrays? I think that if we want to start making this wiki more semantic, we will need that extension sooner or later anyway. In particular, it is needed to solve this question I asked on StackOverflow. Which, basically, is really a generic need, if we want to depend heavily on SemanticWiki at some later time.

—FurloSK (talk) 14:34, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Currently Array is not an approved extension for use on Gamepedia. In discussing with our developers, it could take a while to get added and may include some additional dev time since the extension is outdated. We are currently looking at Cargo as a replacement for SMW. You're welcome to check that extension out and see if it might suit your needs instead. --Alianin T &bull;  C 22:07, 1 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Alianin, after some reading & local testing, I can confirm that Cargo seems to be (almost) full replacement for Array extension. It is little more complicated, but I have found workarounds for everything I wanted to use originally. Drop me a message when the extension will be installed & available for use ;-) —FurloSK (talk) 06:17, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Plea to become an admin
Hello everybody,

few days ago Ineth2 has left a message on my user page with a proposal for me to become a wiki admin. I would be very glad to become one, but I see no button to "Claim this wiki", as Ineth has mentioned in her comment. Gamepedia help page recommends as a second way to become admin notifying admins through this noticeboard. So—here I am, asking for your help :)

—FurloSK (talk) 19:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Template:Quote
I've done some changes to this template – for a better look, I hope. What still bothers me is that much space between the quote itself and its author. Example: "There's so much emptiness here…"

- CompleCCity

But as far as I understand, a change would have to be done in the MediaWiki – where I haven't access to. So could please an admin take care of this? Thanks. CompleCCity (talk) 11:36, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Interwiki
I suggest adding http://www.falloutwiki.com/$1 to the Interwiki list. The Vault has http://eternity.gamepedia.com/$1 on its own since October 2013 and lists this wiki as an affiliate in the main left navbar – I think, because VaultAusir is the founder of both wikis, and there's many parallels between both games' developers.

Also I suggest to add http://tyranny.gamepedia.com/$1, as it is from Obsidian and somehow related to Pillars of Eternity. --CompleCCity (talk) 18:06, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Those were added to the interwiki. --Alianin T &bull;  C 20:13, 25 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Now I head on for the Tyranny Wiki and ask Tagaziel to add us to them… ;o) CompleCCity (talk) 20:30, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Upload file: Licensing generates error
When choosing (at least) the game as license during the upload process, the following error is generated and the file not uploaded: Exception encountered, of type "InvalidArgumentException"

[03af409b2960386721ec62d4] /Special:Upload InvalidArgumentException from line 246 of /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/Message.php: $key must be a string or an array

Backtrace:


 * 1) 0 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(1391): Message->__construct(NULL, array)


 * 1) 1 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/context/RequestContext.php(457): wfMessage(NULL, ApiMessage)


 * 1) 2 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/specialpage/SpecialPage.php(705): RequestContext->msg(NULL, ApiMessage)


 * 1) 3 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(697): SpecialPage->msg(NULL, ApiMessage)


 * 1) 4 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(472): SpecialUpload->processVerificationError(array)


 * 1) 5 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php(206): SpecialUpload->processUpload


 * 1) 6 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/specialpage/SpecialPage.php(479): SpecialUpload->execute(NULL)


 * 1) 7 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/specialpage/SpecialPageFactory.php(576): SpecialPage->run(NULL)


 * 1) 8 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/MediaWiki.php(282): SpecialPageFactory::executePath(Title, RequestContext)


 * 1) 9 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/MediaWiki.php(745): MediaWiki->performRequest


 * 1) 10 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/includes/MediaWiki.php(519): MediaWiki->main


 * 1) 11 /home/hydra/stable_public_html/index.php(43): MediaWiki->run

Adding the license later manually works.
 * 1) 12 {main}

While searching for the reason of the error, two additional things came into my mind: CompleCCity (talk) 10:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Why is here no MediaWiki:Hydradark, as I know it from The Vault?
 * 2) There has to be a bunch of un-licensed files – why is there no category for this? (And at the moment I don't know how to create it the way, it works automatically…)


 * The file error is something we've been trying to chase down, but it's been hard to duplicate since it's so random. For now, just try re-uploading and the file should go through, if it hadn't already.
 * There's no MediaWiki:Hydradark because this wiki uses a light theme and The Vault uses a dark theme. That's the difference between the two.
 * I need to do an image roundup to tag all of the unlicensed images. I'll work that in with my other image stuff. --Alianin T &bull;  C 20:13, 25 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Okay, I try again next time. Until now I simply added lic and cat already to the file description before uploading.
 * And thanks for pointing me to the visual – and also clearly visible - difference between the Vault and here. That's something that could have come to my mind by itself… :rolleyes: --CompleCCity (talk) 20:45, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

String functions limits
As of recent wiki update, some pages are throwing "Error: String exceeds 1,000 character limit." or, worse, not executing properly without showing error.

Examples being:
 * Gyrd_Háewanes_Sténes
 * calling some templates that operate on strings, like Template:Property_values, fails silently, if some string they operate on is longer than 1000 characters.

I suggest increasing limits of these three variables:
 * $wgPFStringLengthLimit to 5000
 * $wgStringFunctionsLimitSearch
 * $wgStringFunctionsLimitReplace

I know the limits are set for security reasons, but I am working for a long time on semantizing the wiki and 1000 string limit is too low for some specific scenarios.

According to discussion here, it is possible that increasing limit of $wgPFStringLengthLimit alone will suffice—please, test the mentioned Gyrd_Háewanes_Sténes page to see if the error disappeared.

—FurloSK (talk) 09:07, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
Now that the sequel has been officially announced, we should support information and news about it appropriately. Hey – we're the Official Wiki! ;o) I haven't done such a thing before, always came into wikis much time after a game's release. So I have no experience on such a topic or how to do it and what more could/should be done. I suppose this would be a task for Alianin. ;o) --  -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 13:34, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Adding the official forum to the main nav bar.
 * Implement the game's Twitter and news from the forum on the main page, though the latter isn't a feed, yet.


 * User:Tagaziel has taken over as wiki manager here, so he should be alerted too, probably ;-)
 * —FurloSK (talk) 10:33, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * He already has been. ;o) -- UserCCCSig.png  -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 10:41, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Presumably there will also be some challenges in how to structure the wiki once Deadfire is out, and eventual more sequels. For instance, take class pages, like Ciphers. Bound to be changes to Powers and whatnot, so how should the pages be structured in the future? Divided by each game, or separate pages for POE1-ciphers and POE2-ciphers? Presumably the latter is a nightmare, and the former will lead to longer pages, but I suppose the former is better. I see that is how they have done it on the Witcher wiki (although I don't like how almost everything leads to category pages there, instead of a 'proper' Items page and so forth). Pangaearocks (talk) 02:44, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Cargo has been installed
User:Game widow was kind enough to install Cargo on the Wiki, which I'm very pleased about. It should be no problem to run both SMW and Cargo concurrently. The syntax of Cargo is less complex than SMW's, it generates tables automatically, and it's pretty straightforward to query the Cargo tables and generate output in whatever format you like.

There is an example page here, which queries a few examples and puts them into an example table. It uses this template (I had to put it in the main namespace, otherwise Cargo didn't recognise the template as a template; see here.

Important aspects to consider
There are a few differences from SWM that we need to consider when designing/updating templates and managing the data. Please check this migration guide for more information.
 * Cargo does not allow spaces in field names
 * Text values within queries need to be enclosed within quotation marks - single quotes (i.e., apostrophes) are preferred. See example below, with emphasis on the apostrophes around
 * Some data types have been split up to enable more options, while others have been created
 * → New datatype
 * → New datatype
 * → New datatype
 * SMW's Number has been split into →  and.
 * SMW's Number has been split into →  and.

I'm quite excited about this because it should make handling all the templates and data on this fairly big wiki easier. I'd love to hear what you guys think about this though, and whether we should, in time, aim to migrate the whole wiki to Cargo. I know especially User:FurloSK has put a lot of work into items and their templates. I'm new to this place, but it looks like he has been very active, and I noticed there was brief talk about Cargo earlier, so I'm looking forward to feedback :)

Since I've been working on creatures, I'm going to implement Cargo in the template as a start. Pangaearocks (talk) 15:04, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Preparing the Wiki for Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
With Deadfire (hopefully!) coming out in about 6 months, I think we need to think about how to structure the wiki for when there will effectively be boatloads (heh) of double info about weapons, armour, classes, items, creatures, even NPCs. I've looked into templates, but the coding there gives me a headache. I know a bit of coding, but the syntax is completely different to what I'm used to. Have also looked into templates because I find it odd the wiki doesn't have bestiary pages. Leaning on the Witcher wiki, because these are the two game series I've played recently, they essentially have an infobox for each game. So there is infoboxbestiary, infoboxbestiary2, infoboxbestiary3, and same for locations, weapons etc etc. I think we need something similar.

Starting looking into it with a mind to lay out needed properties, but tbh it looks like a Gordian knot with all that coding, and I don't know how different templates interact either. Below are two examples (don't know how to quote code without running it).

Pangaearocks (talk) 20:07, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
 * https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Item_infobox&action=edit
 * https://witcher.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Infoboxbestiary2&action=edit


 * I have created a category for restructuring the wiki: Category:Wiki_restructure. Didn't hear anything for over a week, so I've started the process now; in short making categories with Pillars of Eternity and Pillars of Eternity II prefix. Naturally this means current pages and categories must be edited too, so they point to the correct categories, but once this whole thing is done, the structure should be better for moving forward as a multi-game wiki. Some of the changes can be observed from the category root: Category:Contents Pangaearocks (talk) 20:26, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I have moved the Categories restructure discussion to a more appropriate place – and will take part in it. -- UserCCCSig.png  -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 08:37, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


 * P.S. Oh, and sorry for being this late. -- UserCCCSig.png  -- You talkin' to me? -- cCContributions -- 08:38, 10 November 2017 (UTC)