Talk:Timeline

Known info
Quick tidbits/reasoning used in the article, feel free to adjust/correct:
 * pale elves lived at least 12,000 years ago. - "Anthropologically (pre-history), most academics who care to theorize believe that pale elves (Glamfellen) left the northern hemisphere at least 12,000 years ago."
 * more than 4,000 years ago, civilization was extremely modest, not advanced.".
 * The Glanfathans occupied Eir Glanfath 2,000 years ago. Before them, it was occupied by Engwithans.


 * The Ixamitl culture(?) is one of the oldest continuous cultures in the world, going back a little earlier than Old Vailia.
 * Old Valia was established about 1500 years ago.


 * "The Dyrwood and the Vailian Republics have only been colonized for a few centuries." which presumably put those events somewhere between Aedyr empire inception and the calendar change.
 * "The Glanfathans have lived in Eir Glanfath for two millennia. Before them, it was occupied by a relatively unknown civilization known as the Engwithans.."


 * Grand Empire of Vailia collapse happened over two hundred years ago. - "The nations that once made up the [Grand Empire of Vailia] are engaged in a continuous war for dominance that has been going on (and off, and on again) for over two hundred years."
 * Vailian Republics formation is unknown but likely followed (or caused?) the break of the empire.
 * The Vailian Republics were formed before the revolution in the dyrwood. "The title of duc is used in the Vailian Republics for the sovereign ruler of a city-state, but the Dyrwoodans borrowed it when they rebelled against the Aedyran Empire."


 * Durgan's Battery fell about a hundred years ago.


 * The Broken Stone War was over a century ago.
 * The War of the black trees was decades after the broken stone war.
 * Dyrwood independence happened after the Broken Stone War and War of the black trees. - "After the Dyrwoodan revolution for independence, the Dyrwood officially stopped the Aedyr Empire's practice...that had ignited the earlier wars between Dyrwoodan settlers and Glanfathans".
 * The revolution in the dyrwood was a few centuries ago.
 * The revolution in Readceras was after the revolution in the dyrwood.
 * Dyrwoodan revolution was far bloodier than the Readceran.

Discussion

 * I think it doesn't say when people in the dyrwood started using AI only that the calendar is 150 years old. I think it's likely that they started to use the calendar after the dyrwood has become independent. Prometheus12345 (talk) 12:55, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree, I think your wording is better.--AnotherArk (talk) 15:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Currently it stated that 'The Broken Stone War' occurred at ~2723AI, but as far as I could see this is not supported by the reference. --AnotherArk (talk) 14:39, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That is true it only says that the broken stone war happened over a century ago. I have changed the date to ???.Prometheus12345 (talk) 18:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Readceras independence should be closer to PE time, unless St. Waidwen was very very old.--AnotherArk (talk) 04:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Issues

 * According to Edrang_Hadret_(book), the Broken Stone War started after Edrang Hadret assumed power as gref, however, in the timeline it is the other way around(2626, 2628) - Can anyone check the dates. --AnotherArk (talk) 09:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The timeline is according to the books The Dyrwood, Part 2: The Broken Stone War and Eir Glanfath, Part 1: Early Contact. from Broken Stone War: "In 2626 AI, a group of farmers, while clearing farmland for planting, accidentally knocked down one of the ancient adra menhirs on their land. This innocent act drew the ire of the native population and started what would come to be known as the Broken Stone War. When it was finally over, several thousand colonists have been killed as well as hundreds of the Glanfathans. Even though the war was technically over, the Glanfathans escalated their attacks on the settlers over the next two years using vicious tactics that left many colonists, several military figures, an erl, and six thayns dead. Unable to stop the Glanfathan attacks, the erls elected erl Edrang Hadret to the position of gréf."


 * and from eir glanfath book I: "This tentative peace came to a bloody end in 2626 AI. A group of farmers, clearing a potential crop field in the middle of an area dotted with many sacred ruins, knocked down one of the ancient menhirs. Whether this was intentional or accidental is not known, but this incident started what came to be known as the Broken Stone War. It was short, lasting less than a year, but it was bloody and brutal. Several thousand Aedyran colonists died as well as hundreds of Glanfathans.

Though the war ended, the attacks on the Aedyrans didn't stop. An orlan named Regd was chosen as galven of the Glanfathans. He vowed to make every outsider pay for the injustices done on his people's land. He organized the Glanfathan Fangs and orchestrated a series of attacks over the course of the next two years. It seemed Regd's tactics would eventually work and drive the Aedyrans from Eir Glanfath, but then they started fighting back. They became far more organized and their tactics less predictable. Fewer and fewer of Regd's attacks succeeded. He discovered a new gréf, Edrang Hadret, had been appointed."


 * Prometheus12345 (talk) 12:57, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. The account your provided is more detailed, with specific years, so I am inclined to go with this version of events. Although we should probably confirm with the devs. --AnotherArk (talk) 17:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The Guidebook says that edrang gets the power of a gref in 2629 AI. see here(right column near the top)Prometheus12345 (talk) 22:33, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh you sneaky bastard, I love the preview and this settles the issue, thanks. Overall, they are bound to have some inconsistencies in a work of this size, I like how George martin addressed this y turning it into a "feature", a measure of authenticity. Simply by stating that the accuracy of the various accounts is questioned by the scholars... --AnotherArk (talk) 10:46, 12 March 2015 (UTC)